Published May 20 2022

‘What Happens Next?’: Will AI Change the Future of Soldiering?

Ask an artificial intelligence to play you in a game of chess, and chances are, you’ll lose.

Ask an artificial intelligence to make you a cup of coffee, however, and prepare to be disappointed.

While robotics, autonomous systems and artificial intelligence, collectively known as RAS-AI, represent the bleeding edge of innovation and are often the villains in science fiction, the technology has a long way to go before it will replace humans in day-to-day tasks – and that includes on the battlefield.

In last week’s episode of Monash University’s What Happens Next? podcast, expert guests warned of the dangers of removing humans from war and replacing them with robots – the consequences could quickly become catastrophic. The good news? That’s not likely to happen any time soon.


Listen: Will Tomorrow's Wars Be Fought by Robots?


Although it will never replace human soldiers, RAS-AI does have some surprising effects on them – including on their mental health, and in shaping society’s views on valour and what it means to be a member of the military.

This week on What Happens Next?, Dr Susan Carland is joined by expert guests who outline the state of RAS-AI today, its tremendous potential benefits to humanity, and how emerging technologies are changing the way we think about soldiers, and the way soldiers think about their jobs.

Today’s guests are Monash University alumnus and veteran Dr Josh Roose; Dr Kate Devitt, Chief Scientist of Trusted Autonomous Systems, CRC; former SAS commanding officer Ben Pronk DSC; and Paul Scharre, a former US Army Ranger and the author of Army of None: Autonomous Weapons and the Future of War.

“If no one slept uneasy at night, if no one felt responsible, what would that say about us as a society? Some of the moral and ethical issues are actually some of the most interesting and really challenging issues where there are no easy answers.”

Paul Scharre

What Happens Next? will be back next week with a new topic.

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About the Authors

  • Susan carland

    Director, Bachelor of Global Studies, and Lecturer, School of Language, Literature, Cultures and Linguistics

    Susan's research and teaching specialties focus on gender, sociology, contemporary Australia, terrorism, and Islam in the modern world. Susan hosted the “Assumptions” series on ABC’s Radio National, and was named one of the 20 Most Influential Australian Female Voices in 2012 by The Age.

  • Josh roose

  • Kate devitt

  • Ben pronk

  • Paul scharre

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