Published May 13 2022

‘What Happens Next?’: Will Tomorrow’s Wars Be Fought by Robots?

It’s an unfortunate truth that many of our technological advancements are driven by conflict. In war, the party with the most advanced technology has a significant advantage, and a vast military industrial complex is hard at work developing the latest and the greatest to give their side a leg up. From the internet, to satellites, to robotics, one thing war certainly is good for is advancing technology.


Listen: Cyberwar: Keeping track of the battle to keep Ukraine online


Artificial intelligence and autonomous systems are poised to change the battlefield, and with it, soldiers themselves.

Today, the human cost of war is high. Will that be true of tomorrow’s wars, or will humans be removed from the front lines, left to orchestrate surgical drone strikes and autonomous technology behind the scenes?

And what about the soldiers themselves? Today, pilots are operating drones from the other side of the world, but they’re still reporting high levels of trauma. Will reducing the humans involved in combat also reduce the humanity that should govern it? Can modern soldiers be both ethical and effective? And how will emerging technologies such as AI and robotics affect human soldiering?


Read: The battle back home


Monash University’s podcast, What Happens Next?, examines a new topic this week: The future of soldiering. Join host Dr Susan Carland as she talks to veterans and experts in ethics; robotics, autonomous systems, and artificial intelligence; resilience; and military conduct to discover what the future we face looks like if we fail to consider the moral and ethical quandaries presented by new technologies on the battlefield.

This week’s guests are philosophy professor Dr Rob Sparrow; alumnus and veteran Dr Josh Roose; Dr Kate Devitt, Chief Scientist of Trusted Autonomous Systems, CRC; former SAS commanding officer Ben Pronk DSC; and Paul Scharre, a former US Army Ranger and the author of Army of None: Autonomous Weapons and the Future of War.

“When you have humans with other humans, it's a human endeavour. And when you take humans away from other humans and then put robots between them, then there's a loss of a connection from a human perspective.”

Kate Devitt

What Happens Next? will be back next week with part two of this series, “Will AI Change the Future of Soldiering?”.

If you’re enjoying the show, don’t forget to subscribe on your favourite podcast app, and rate or review What Happens Next? to help listeners like yourself discover it.

Listen on Apple Podcasts

 
 
 
 

Listen to more What Happens Next? podcast episodes

About the Authors

  • Susan carland

    Director, Bachelor of Global Studies, and Lecturer, School of Language, Literature, Cultures and Linguistics

    Susan's research and teaching specialties focus on gender, sociology, contemporary Australia, terrorism, and Islam in the modern world. Susan hosted the “Assumptions” series on ABC’s Radio National, and was named one of the 20 Most Influential Australian Female Voices in 2012 by The Age.

  • Robert sparrow

    Professor of Philosophy, Monash Data Futures Institute

    Robert's research interests are bioethics, political philosophy and applied ethics; he is an expert in philosophical arguments with real-world implications.

  • Josh roose

  • Paul scharre

  • Kate devitt

  • Ben pronk

Other stories you might like