Published Oct 29 2021

‘What Happens Next?’: Is Australia Classist?

Who holds the power in Australia?

Monash University’s podcast, What Happens Next?, seeks to answer that question – and understand how things got to this point – in an all-new, two-episode arc.

Over the past several decades, Australia’s social stratification has become more pronounced. It’s partially the result of economic trends such as trickle-down theory and the increasing casualisation of employment in the gig economy, but there are other factors at play here.


Listen: Taking Us for a Ride: ‘What Happens Next?’ on the gig economy


In this series, host Dr Susan Carland sits down with John Thwaites, chair of the Monash Sustainable Development Institute and ClimateWorks Australia; Bri Lee, author of the book Who Gets to Be Smart?; Rick Morton, senior reporter for The Saturday Paper; and Monash Arts Associate Professor of Communications & Media Studies Dr Tony Moore.

Find out how privilege and disparate levels of access to basic resources such as education are contributing to an imbalance of power and influence in the land of the ‘fair go’ – threatening the egalitarian ideals Australia’s striven to model for the world.

“I don't think any of us want to go down that track where a few billionaires, now nearly trillionaires, own a huge part of the wealth of the country. And not only the wealth – a disproportionate amount of the power.”

John Thwaites AM

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About the Authors

  • Susan carland

    Director, Bachelor of Global Studies, and Lecturer, School of Language, Literature, Cultures and Linguistics

    Susan's research and teaching specialties focus on gender, sociology, contemporary Australia, terrorism, and Islam in the modern world. Susan hosted the “Assumptions” series on ABC’s Radio National, and was named one of the 20 Most Influential Australian Female Voices in 2012 by The Age.

  • John thwaites

    John is a Professorial Fellow at Monash University He's a consultant at legal firm Maddocks, providing advice on climate change, water, sustainability and corporate social responsibility. He's co-chair of the Leadership Council of the global Sustainable Development Solutions Network (SDSN), chairs the Australian Building Codes Board and the Peter Cullen Water and Environment Trust, and is a director of the Australian Green Building Council. He was previously chair of the National Sustainability Council. John was deputy premier of Victoria from 1999 until his retirement in 2007. During this period he was Minister for Health, Minister for Planning, Minister for Environment, Minister for Water, Minister for Victorian Communities and Victoria's first Minister for Climate Change.

  • Tony moore

    Associate Professor, Communications and Media Studies

    Tony Moore joined the Communications and Media Studies program as a lecturer in February 2009, following careers in book publishing and as a program maker at ABC-TV. He completed his doctorate in Australian cultural history at the University of Sydney, and writes regularly on communications, history and politics in the press and scholarly publications.

  • Bri lee

  • Rick morton

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